If you put the pump IN the tank, as long as the impeller is submerged, it will pump, even if the outlet tube is full of air. Dave ----- Original Message ----- > I want to pump water from a tank to a container using a small pond > submersible pump (or whatever pump), but when the pump starts, there may not > be water in the pipe that goes from the tank to the container -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.