Someone recently commented on the phosphor wearing out in white LED's. That made me ask two questions: 1. How long do they last? Conventional LED's usually outlive the device they are in. 2. If they depend upon a phosphor, what is the persistency? It occurred to me that it would be neat to have a nice pilot lamp on some piece of gear that could also do double duty as a data or carrier transmitter. Regular IR or red LED's can be driven up in to the megahertz with no trouble at all. The challenge is usually in finding a suitable photo cell that can recover the signal. If a white LED burns out or dims out after a few hundreds or thousands of hours, it isn't that much of an improvement over a small incandescent bulb except maybe for the energy efficiency factor. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu