> I didn't think 422/485 would handle the long runs. That sure would > make life easy if it could work with it. You can use repeaters to increase the length and number of nodes handled. > The actual data I'm dealing with is very limited. For the most part it consists > of exchanging a few bytes of data every few minutes. My concern was that > the overhead from using ethernet would choke the pic. This sounds like rs-485 to me. > Part of the reason for considering tcp-ip/ethernet was the number of required > sensors On this demo sized field I'd guess I need to talk to around 250 nodes. > On a large field they would deploy anywhere from 3,000 to over 10,000 nodes. You can do this with rs-485. You just need to use a protocol that has that much address space. And an rs-485 node can be much less expensive than an ethernet node, which might matter if you have 3k to 10k nodes. :) > I had considered RF but they do not want any emissions on any frequency. The > demo is planned to be setup near a radio telescope so I guess they want to > be good neighbors. This sounds interesting. I would definately use good shielded cable. Please let us know how it comes out. > Actually the more I look into this I think a nice paper route is the way to > go....be my own > boss, flexible hours...;-] I had the paper-route. I had to get up to early and was too disorganized. That's why I've worked at the university level for the last 25 years or so. :) > Now I'm sitting around here trying to think what kind of sensor you use for > dinosaurs or bigfoot... Well, they sound like they have heavy footsteps. How about some sound or accelerometers mounted underground? Even seismic sensors might do it. :) Of course, since nobody can seem to actually find these things on demand, maybe they've gotten stealth over the years. You may need a ninja detector. -- D. Jay Newman ! jay@sprucegrove.com ! Xander: Giles, don't make cave-slayer unhappy. http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu