Dwayne Reid writes: >I'm much more an analog guy rather than digital and have fairly limited DSP >experience. But analog mixers work in a similar fashion. Look at it this >way: you want to maximize your Signal to Noise Ratio. So: you choose your >components such that when all inputs have their maximum input signal >applied, the mixer stage output is just below clip. For a 2 input mixer, >each input contributes 50% of the output. If one input goes away, the >output drops by half. > >The problem with clipping the signal is that it sounds just awful. Some types of digital systems accentuate this problem. Many digital telephones use Mu-Law encoding in North America and A-Law encoding everywhere else to break up 8-bit PCM in to a peace-wise logarithmic function. This gives you really good and clear audio when things are working right, but Heaven help you if A. It is a conference call and two people talk loudly at once or B. The call is from an outside trunk and the audio is a bit too hot. The effect is a sort of kazoo-like sound in which both voices break up as if the mixing process is clipping. I think it messes up the logarithmic function when it sees 0's or 0xFF's but I haven't sat down and calculated exactly what is happening because I don't know enough of the details. All I know is that you don't have to have golden ears to hear the result of the clipping when it happens. It's not just sort of distorted, but unintelligible during the peaks. I think the closest one can come to having a multi-channel mixer that appears to not attenuate all the audio streams is to devise some sort of peak limiter like one might find in a sound recorder or broadcasting station to "listen" to the output of the mixer and bring it down when several of the inputs have high audio levels simultaneously. The peak limiter then decays back to normal when the peak passes. The effect of that can be audible, but it is a lot more pleasant than the clipping. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body