> If you settle for 8 LEDs, you could build one from say a 16F628 with > almost no support circuitry, and use a 5 or so line PICBasic > program to drive it. Why is everyone so 16F628-minded? The 16F628A is cheaper, the 16F630 is much cheaper and still has 9 I/O (+2 when clocked internally, + 1 input when reset internally). Even the 8-pin 12F629 can drive 12 LEDs! (for instance http://www.voti.nl/kitt-1/n_index.html). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body