> Lucian is actually doing rather well with this I think he probably is too, but I was trying to impress on him to be extra-cautious in a situation where one mistake is going to cause a lot of unnecessary work. A stitch in time and all that. Not that he needs lessons from me. I've done it. 10 boards that need stuffing, the pupils dilate, and you get stuck in. Then ooops, oh fairycakes, on #9 you realise that a cap is backwards. Or my favourite, which still haunts me - designing a board from the wrong side and all the chips had to go on the solder side. Upside-down with their pins bent over their heads like they're surrendering. Fudge, that was a lot of chips........ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.