> IMHO, the best overvoltage protection is a label: 12V 250 mA. If > the user violates that label, it becomes his or her problem, not yours I'd agree with you generally, if I'm in a libertarian mood - except to say that sometimes (well, a lot of the time actually) people need protecting from themselves I've had the case of someone who stuck 12V up a prototype instead of 6V in the vain optimistic hope it would "go faster". For a few ms it probably did, then and forever after it go-ed no more. As he was the only user and the PIC and LCD were obviously frizzed and he ignored my instructions, he had no option but to 'fess up and pay for repairs. I could have protected the circuit but I never expected such a reckless experiment But on the flip-side there's the example of whoever the someone was who moved the voltage selector on my nephew's PC from 230 to 110. No smoking gun (although the PC made a passable stand-in) and no obvious culprit - "I didn't do it" "It was like that when I got here". Awkward A label is a good cheap idea but you have to consider what the user does with the unit after its trashed, and how that may impact on your reputation and conscience As for the OP - if you don't want the protection on the PCB how about making a small protection board that can be used during prototyping. Include a rectifier (diode bridge + cap), regulator, LED and filtering. Then you can use whatever PS is available and know that only a safe stable 5V will get to the main circuit -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body