My microchip supplier in France send me an "offer", but has no spoke about this contest.... And another offer is the ICD2 at 99$ (normal price 159$). I think i will ordered a dsPIC contest kit and my second ICD2... A microchip ICD2 at the price of an olimex ICD2, interesting, isn't it? I'm still interested in the C30 C compiler.... Which C compiler do you use to compile it? SamB -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.