Will, > There is an inverse relationship between security and usability. As you close yourself off to things > that make you vulnerable you intrinsically do the same to opportunities and capabilities that you might benefit from. Not necessarily - only if the implementation of the security is badly done! A Saab is at least as "usable" as a Ford Pinto as a motor vehicle, but I know which one I'd rather be in in an accident! :-) And I really can't see how a buffer-overrun can be any sort of opportunity that a user might want... Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics