I got the C18 compiler and tried to use it with the Microchip ICD2 and MPLAB. When I configure the ICD2 as a programmer and debugger, I get an error message that says I can't use ICD2 for both functions. I know I could do this before using the CCS compiler. I have to think that if this was a new limitation of MPLAB 6.5 that it would really annoy a lot of people. Does that mean you have to buy and ICE 4000? How do you develop on 64 pin SMT devices? You can't pull out the chip to program it. I must be missing something. Bruce Partridge http://www.rebreather.ca --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 4/15/2004 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu