> > One question (in general): any particular reason folks are so > enamored with > the 8 pin parts? Personally I avoid them like the plague due to > extremely > limited I/O and complete inability to have a bootloader. Unless > you're talking > about a 1000+ unit run, the costs between the 8 pin part and a hefty > capable > 40 pin part with all the bells and whistles (12F629 and 16F871 as > examples) > is only a 3X price difference. In hobbyist/small scale run terms, the > price > is negligable. > > So I'm just wondering if there is an advantage to develop with a > extremely > limited target as opposed to a larger more capable part? And for only a few times the price of some 40 pin PICs you can get a rabbit module with 52 i/o, 128k of ram, 256k of flash, and ethernet. But seriously, I am very fond of the 12f629 & 12f675. The 12f629 and 12f675 are really 16f parts in a 8 pin package so you get the same instruction set, redesigning for a larger part is easy. They are only a buck each (very easy for to get in qty of 25) and how much more do you need to run a RGB LED or a simple temp/light sensor? You even have pins left over for 3 buttons without any i/o expanding hacks. It all depends on the project. Would you seriously use a 40 pin part to blink 3 leds? IIRC even high-end PICs only have up to 2 PWM channels, so you would do it all in software anyway and only end up using 3 pins. The only gripe I have about the 8 pin parts is lack of a hardware USART. Of cource it would then need better OSC options, but those are already in the works. IMHO Part of the inspiration to use a PIC in the first place is to solve complex tasks with simple tools. I believe this ideology extends to both hobby and production designs. Of cource you can't do everything with such a limited device, most projects require more i/o and horsepower. I personally can't wait to see what I can do with a 10f PIC when/if they come out. Hope that helps answer your question :-) - Ben Hencke Obligatory Quote: "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." -- Albert Einstein __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25" http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu