I agree that it is best to keep the level converter separate and use it only when needed. There are many TTL level "RS232" applications. E.g. stuff connected to a BASIC Stamp, or another microcontroller. Why add the circuit (and it's noise, power draw, etc...) when you don't always need it? Just keep a TTL<>RS232 level converter handy for when it is required. Like, Oh, I don't know THIS ONE: http://www.piclist.com/io/serial/rcl1 --- James. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Shawn Tan Ser Ngiap Sent: 2004 Apr 15, Thu 10:58 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE:]TTL to/ From rs232 for 16F628 circuit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 16 April 2004 13:05, Mark Mynsted wrote: > I am new to this and want to be able to connect my circuit to my pc to > provide nice informaiton for debugging etc. The 16F628 has a AUSART > but I need to alter the voltage. > I found the following here at piclist: > http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/serial/ttl-rs232.htm - -- >8 -- Why go through all the trouble and all the unknowns.. just pop in a MAX232 or similar chip, a couple of caps.. and you're off.. in fact, if you're doing this regularly, you might even consider making a RS232 to TTL level converter using a MAX232.. Just my 2 cents... - -- ========================= engineering elegance ======================== AESTE WORKS (M) SDN BHD url: www.aeste.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAf3XQ9KUEj/m6O5oRAlIbAJ9hBTk9/6WS3B05F0gy80AlBj1AeQCeLrl/ 8VHkEUvxBNXxhvv8StxFR2k= =M2ee -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads