I have had some problems with 'F' parts @ 3.3V, erratic programming failures, but they ran fine. Circuit cellar 2002 had a smartmedia article that ran an 'F' @ 3.3V, the author said nothing about how this is contrary to datasheet spec. Personally I spend the extra $1 for the LF. J Michael Rigby-Jones wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Hulatt, Jon [mailto:jhulatt@MONSTEREUROPE.COM] >>Sent: 13 April 2004 15:40 >>To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >>Subject: Re: [PIC:] 18F452 / 18LF452 >> >> >> >>>I asked my FAE about this sometime ago, and ISTR the specs >> >>are exactly >> >>>the same on the F and LF when operating at 5volts, but the >> >>spec's had >> >>>to be relaxed for working at low voltages, (i.e. if you stick to the >>>conditions shown for the F part in the table, the LF should >> >>meet those >> >>>specs when run at 5 volts). >>> >> >>Do we therefore think it likely that the ~LF parts are not >>physically different to the ~F parts, but just turn out to be >>the best of the bunch? >> >>A la Intel testing cpus and speed grading accordingly? >> >>It's an out of interest thing; please noone jump on my back >>saying I shouldn't run a pic out of spec etc etc. :) > > > Very probably. I have (accidently) run non-LF parts at 3.3volts with no > problems at all. YYMV etc. > > Regards > > Mike > > > > > ======================================================================= > This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The > information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by > law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must > not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any > person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have > received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, > forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. > No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or > services. > ======================================================================= > Any questions about Bookham's E-Mail service should be directed to > postmaster@bookham.com. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu