My supplier states a lead time on 18F452's is a few weeks, but 18LF452's are in stock. As far as I can see from the datasheet an 18LF is the same or better compared to an 18F. It this correct? Is this generally true for all PICs? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.