Actually, I'll disagree about the support part, and I won't touch Autotra= x=20 even if I have to pay much more. I tried it last year and it was extremely buggy, and crashed regularly. = I=20 also joined the yahoo group, but when I posted anything that hinted of=20 problems with the software, my posts did not make it to the list. I coul= d=20 not even delete the software properly and my posts asking how to do this = were=20 moderated out. Eventually found out that the author/owner of the software, Ilija Kovic o= r=20 something like that, was the list owner/moderator, and was filtering out = any=20 post that made his software look bad. Had some one-on-one emails with hi= m=20 and we agreed not to ever cross each others' paths again. But of course = some=20 months later, I got an email from him asking me to try the latest version= =2E Cheers, -Neil. On Monday 12 April 2004 01:43 am, Bob Barr scribbled: > The only one that I know of that even comes close is AutoTRAX but it's > still not completely stable yet. For $95, you can get unlimited pins > and large board sizes. The autorouter isn't complete (it's pretty much > unusable) nor will it do arbitrary footprint rotation. There's pretty > good support at the Yahoo group. > > > http://www.autotraxeda.com > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autotrax/ > > > Regards, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics