> What I'm looking for is something that will take a HEX > file--and any other necessry info and not change it > (MPLAB likes to turn Debug mode back on and other > antics) and program the device via ICSP (In-circuit > serial programming). Ideally it would > be upgradeable as Microchip invents new parts. Maybe > Microchip makes what we need. My Wisp628 is used for production work (a customer uses some 30 of them on one PC), but it is a one-voltage-only programmer, hence a prototype prograpper in Microchip speak. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics