On Windoze machines, I'm running BackUpTime, a low cost utility where you can schedule copies. I think it will also create a zip copy, though I just duplicate the whole hard drive as a backup. This is done weekly to a 120 gig USB hard drive. Once a month the drive is swapped with another and Norton Ghost creates a drive image. On Linux, I have a cron job that creates a gzipped tar file of each directory from root (ie, /home, /var, /etc ...). These then go through Samba to the USB hard drive on the Windoze machine described above. The cron job also does the backup once a week. Norton Ghost will also create an image of a Linux file system, but I have not done that since I'd have to take the machine off line for several hours. I'd like to have some sort of "bare metal" backup of it, though. I am looking at doing a USB hard drive RAID array on the linux machine. That way, the "box" would have only a motherboard and a power supply in it. Should it fail, it'd be real quick to swap out. The RAID array would not lose any data on the loss of one drive. I plan on messing around with this idea this summer when I'll supposedly have more time (no teaching at night...). Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu