On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 09:25 US/Pacific, Dan Oelke wrote: > It doesn't surprise me that they have built in TDR type stuff as > the phy chip for 1000BaseT is sending and receiving data on > all 4 pairs of wire simultaneously The venerable AMD "Lance" 10mbit ethernet controller, perhaps the 2nd "integrated" ethernet controller ever to be implemented, would give you a TDR value (in clock ticks) in the case of certain types of errors (excessive collisions, I think.) I actually used it once to try to find a cable problem, and was very impressed how close it came... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads