On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 07:50 US/Pacific, Bob Ammerman wrote: >> Yes, it is a thing of beauty! I still have my PDP11 manuals! > > Indeed, it is probably my favorite assembly language. The PDP-10 was nicer. 20 more bits to play with. Lots of no-ops. Skip never, jump never, test and skip never. Unimplemented User Operations. Sigh. (microcode now available to turn your linux system into a PDP-10. Somewhat faster than Dec's mainframes ever were.) All summarizable on a a single sheet of 8x10 paper without resorting to tiny type. ( http://www.ultimate.com/phil/pdp10/instructionset.jpg )Brilliantly orthogonal. The PDP-11 was more elegant, though. So why haven't more of the historically significant processors become microcontrollers as technlogy has made it possible? Zilog seems to be about the only company that has managed to do this with the Z80. I noticed that WDC is still pushing 6502s, but I don't think there are full micrcontrollers base on it... Is it JUST the IP messiness? Or do the people who spend the bucks not look on history with such fondness? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads