Fascinating. What is the make/model of the MB? Name of the program? I'd sure like to know how they're doing this with a 'normal' chip set. Of course one can do simple TDR using a fast rise time square wave generator and a fast scope. And there are a number of $200 'cable testers' that can do this. And Circuit Cellar had a winning project some years back which did TDR, crosstalk tests and the like with results displayed in text on a 2x20 LCD. Robert "M. Adam Davis" wrote: > > My latest motherboard has built in 1000baseT (gigabit ethernet over > twisted pair) and comes with a utility that tests cables. It'll provide > minimal TDR capabilities - in addition to the usual shorts/opens, it'll > tell you where in the cable the short/open is, how long the cable is, > various parameters about the cable, improperly connected pairs. Some > tests need a similar network card on the other end, but most run with > just one end connected to this board. > > I'm hoping to find a PCI or PCMCIA card with this capability - it'll > save me tons of time! What I'd /really/ like is a handheld driving one > of these cards. It'd be neat to look at the chipset info and see if > it's interfaceable with a low level controller... > > -Adam > > Howard Winter wrote: > > >Russell, > > > >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:28:52 +1200, Russell McMahon wrote: > >>Best of all was including a short length of wrong impedance cable in a coaxial ethernet installation.Guess > >> > >> > >how I know :-( > > > >Ah, memories! I remember getting a call from a secretary at our office, who said "Get here and fix this > >(expletive deleted) thing before I throw it out of the window!" > > > >Never being one to underestimate a threat like this, I headed back (from a client's) and found that > >Wordperfect would take 5 minutes to load, then another 5 to open a file, etc. It was a network wide problem > >so I set to with the time-domain-reflectometer (praising the accounts department that I'd been allowed to buy > >one!) and it showed some odd readings - usually you open the termination at the one end end of the 10-base-2 > >(50-ohm coax) and connect the TDR at the other end and it gives the length of cable to the open end of the > >network segment, then you work along and as you exclude a length of cable the remaining length shown reduces > >accordingly. This didn't! It intermitently showed a much shorter length, and it wasn't consistent from the > >two ends, so I did a "binary chop" to locate where the problem was. I found that someone had inserted a > >piece of coax they'd found in a cupboard, to add their machine to the network, and it was (I think) IBM > >terminal cable: 75-ohm instead of 50. I replaced it with some of the right stuff, and harmomy was restored. > >I'd like to say that the secretary was eternally grateful and demonstrated it... but sadly not :-( > > > >I'm rather glad that 10-base-T (twisted pair) caught on and replaced coax - it's much easier and more reliable > >to use all round. > > > >I wonder who got custody of the TDR? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu