It doesn't surprise me that they have built in TDR type stuff as the phy chip for 1000BaseT is sending and receiving data on all 4 pairs of wire simultaneously, and so must subtract out it's sent signal from it's received signal as well as remove echos of it's own signal that come back from far-end reflections. i.e. those phy chips end up being some pretty spiffy DSP engines under the hood. Just what you would need for doing TDR type stuff. They have the echo cancellation functions so they need to be able to measure time for reflections already. As to what is available in chipsets and their abilities - I don't know of any that have TDR capabilities made available, but the last time I looked at this was a couple of years ago when the 1000BaseT standard had *just* been formalized. I'm sure many more and better chips have since come out. Dan M. Adam Davis wrote: > My latest motherboard has built in 1000baseT (gigabit ethernet over > twisted pair) and comes with a utility that tests cables. It'll provide > minimal TDR capabilities - in addition to the usual shorts/opens, it'll > tell you where in the cable the short/open is, how long the cable is, > various parameters about the cable, improperly connected pairs. Some > tests need a similar network card on the other end, but most run with > just one end connected to this board. > > I'm hoping to find a PCI or PCMCIA card with this capability - it'll > save me tons of time! What I'd /really/ like is a handheld driving one > of these cards. It'd be neat to look at the chipset info and see if > it's interfaceable with a low level controller... > > -Adam > > Howard Winter wrote: > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu