Man, I just don't believe that they got the clockrate up to 40G and only manage 1000Mips. 40 cycles per instruction! Sheesh! Although I have been wondering whether it would be worthwhile these days to put an entire PDP11 or a small PDP10 into a microcontroller style configuration (on board memory and peripherals.) Probably not; they may have had wonderfully elegant assembly languages, but the processor core itself isn't too useful unless it runs one of the popular operating systems as well... (Hmm. Did RT11 and RSX and such get released the way the pdp-10 software did?) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body