> Thanks for the replies folks, it would appear that my "minimum > circuitry" solution won't do what I think I will need, that is a quick > 'top off' between games (15-30 minutes or so) from an unknown charge > state. As you can imagine, the battery going dead mid game is an > absolute no-no. Cell temperature rise is a legitimate end point method. In your case it would be easy to implement and you may not mind trading off some cell lifetime for simplicity. I have a commercial charger which I use for my AA camera batteries. I think it uses 3 separate end point methods BUT when the charge light goes out the cells have always become very warm - probably about 50C. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu