I use VOIP from http://www.sipphone.com . It seems to work very well. The audio MIGHT break up when traffic gets heavy (and I don't know where the congestion is... it might be on my DSL, since I run a server on it, or it might be somewhere else). SipPhone is pure VOIP in that they do not bridge to the POTS network (though you can call 800 numbers). It's generally intended to do free calling to other SipPhone users and users of Free World Dialup (which the FCC just declared is an "information service" instead of a "communications service", so it is exempt from various requirements and taxes). Once you have the SipPhone equipment, there are no usage fees. After that point, you're really just using their directory server (my name for it). They also offer free voicemail (the message is emailed to you) and conference calling. Fun toy! If you have a calling card from some company that lets you use an 800 (or similar) number, you can use SipPhone to bridge into POTS and call non-SipPhone customers. Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body