> and the plug is a hollow barrell) as seen on most wall-warts and a > vast array of electronics including the Microchip PIC programmers Are you sure it's 2.5mm ? 2.1mm is a lot more common. Pic Start + has a 2.1 for example -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics