Thank you everyone for your help. I think I'll start with Wouter's Wisp628 programmer, ASM, breadboard, 9v wall wart, etc for now and see how things go. I'm sure I'll be back soon with more questions. Duane __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads