On Monday, Mar 22, 2004, at 14:34 US/Pacific, Thomas C. Sefranek wrote: >> >>> Jinx, I don't know what the difference would be it I had 10V The problem is that getting a regulated 12V out of a 12V battery is a relatively "hard" thing, requiring a switching topology of some sort (and IIRC, switchers are easier when the output voltage ISN'T that close to the input voltage.) If you could get by with 10V, you could use two simple linear regulators (depending on other circumstances, of course.) Are you allowed to use, say, 14V worth of battery? Or is the 12V requirement loose enough that you can get by with an unregulated 12V direct from the battery, when the main power is off? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads