I agree, and I've heard Microchip people saying that also. Their business is to sell silicon: besides they don't want to kill third parties. Ale On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Peter Moreton wrote: > I'm not convinced that running SETUP.EXE constitutes being easily > cracked! > > My belief is that Microchip know full well that the C18 compliler is > actually free, and having a free C compiler encourages people to use the > processors = sells more silicon for uChip. Yet, by not overtly > publishing the availability of a free compiler, uChip don't upset the > 3rd party compiler vendors too much. Further, any bona-fide company will > purchase the C18 compiler, or a 3rd party compiler product to be able to > get support, updates etc. So, everyone benefits. uChip sell silicon, the > compiler vendors still sell compilers to professional developers, and > the hobby community gets a free C compiler for the PIC18. Win win win. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads