This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C41082.72447B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Something with regulators with battery back-up... Just some drowsy thoughts.............(it's 3am. Flip, not again !) Lucian, this would work as a basic linear setup to get 12V and 5V. However, there is a limitation on the 12V side. Because of the diode, you'll need to use a low dropout regulator. That's 1.1V for the LM1084 at 3A. Even with a Schottky, the battery cannot fall below about 13.4V, if it's floated at 13.8V (assuming a lead battery, varies slightly with temperature). Which doesn't give you much capacity without losing regulation I have similar applications, which need only a few 10s of mA back- up power, and use a SPDT (ie a toggle) relay. The relay energises to close the normally-open contacts when mains power is available, otherwise battery voltage flows through the normally-closed contacts. At least that makes an extra 0.6V because there's no diode. I'm wondering if the input to the charger can be isolated another way, perhaps with a semiconductor or relay on the input Because of the droput problems and currents that you need, I think you may have to go to a higher V batteries, perhaps a 24V for 12V and a 12V for 5V ? Maybe someone can suggest a step-up switcher instead A junkbox way to get 13.8V is with a jacked-up 7812, that is one that has the reference pin lifted 1.8V above ground. Better would be with a specialised charger/monitor so it's not over-charged or discharged it too far. The other thing to watch out for is the wattage dissipated by the 5V regulator. It will be dropping around 9V. A more efficient way would be to have an additional lower voltage tap on the transformer and a 6V battery as well -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C41082.72447B20 Content-Type: image/gif; name="12-5-bat.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="12-5-bat.gif" R0lGODlhnwF2AIAAAAAAAP///ywAAAAAnwF2AAAC/oyPqcvtD6OctNqLs968+w+G4kiW5omm6sq2 7gvH8kzX9o3n+s73/g8MCnWAovGITCqPw6bzCfUBRNOo9YrNkqogrvYLDosTXk95jE6rgWdOew2P y11vTX2Oz+vd1L3/D1hxhzEYaHhVRHbYUGjRuGC0KInDZPDodzmRecC1OflJhRTgiUf64Flm6rbE 2urKWvIqO0tba3uLm6u7y9sbeqv4otoxfEqcaIc8lDRKEemsvNwnGEwnU+yAbUn8VNnsfKFtHULa GSNOGGvG7RT9rRkOhc5J6N4y76jOvoEvVC4/DeA5fXwK6vnXLWBCGFP6bdtnB1O8hV2sOIxgTmFE /oN5ELbTaIyTvRUXQ9Ijt45jqYkfUUpQlnEcizb4xGkrKYVlk36PGkJieI9RRYgZcPbwuBNktp/C ZppUWZToHKTLeikBV+0lrG2dtqZoZDMlP4n51jhMNdTnO5JZn0aVqnNlWTVnEfBsplbmJrTU4M6V cxWe2RFdn3HzaXSpx5Fu347dQ3VM4mlqJzNQ1ZDxUr99O2oWOtgfzHeGtzDDXPql2I2eUcGxnPYb bGZrNXnrudrxVG+qQ39EfO+2IFG1N0ONG4e4YLoAgQf/nO001uN/k9PuzbxlZaepWWN/DB7wdYyv q5orjKLrukxhqZevLnnh9q9t0z0kz3l6R+Ri/mBXdJ4eYfVdlpt9w1ml3H2j2NMdBJExgmCCWzSH F30qgFUgfw4qNJqCMX233IYumeBfSvMRdKGI7ukXolh52QWjgvh1puIHiZWYzHki1SUTgfm1CCJR qZzRYGMz1pjhiNJUWJyNA4Gm000aetekFx8eCSSUTp6A42FMCniNljRKCZ9KNMXYpHEsqpnkUL99 qeSTCpRTCZk05haTlSdliSSbP/5JBFcyOhJYDV79ZeeaZtrVYZF+YvloeBOKpqMl0Ik5aFNKJhoi caVZGY1/D/ro5imXMpUUk8W80SWaKOqWZRUZdUiaU2WSuqVJriUEIKyuBhXgipjKRs+Le842/iqq uYq5F4XGTpkmlyQeCg0uczKq57WWRihLOLX84sqAkeakqqTaspXcuXmeGy0Zp0IobZzKtjuvFKOh B22mk6br6rq/XoKNUXepuGuqJxrIJqetarpnrR6ya+SdSpl72bvi/gBcwNhZrOt+/4a6I6193rps myX7U6HGqjmaD7JL2FpqxIrGDCjFGAtK78gQcqxzsAyfPKzE8gpbs6H37oiwqYbtJV2PwNIc9MxA 2zwny7iiXC6VOz9DZ51Owzx1vSSbnHTUPefUa9mQNO3t0k9/TXTDakNN9a9Cs5Fy3GJXu3DfE+8t Ndn5bpvsUTivGg9mC/rNELdW2z32MY43/ns3Da0UG/J4ZpO6GOM3D1053EXLjQaGLFJOOrqf0x34 2wYVnJ3MfAL+s+GgP7UwxKsU/oXpdaceJt63q5n7xaKH4fvvxdN+w8C2cd189O/JXvnyzNvgvH7W 61t76ZBqnTNQwotdCFLbh5/i9OMmfb7uO4xk7LPGBymn5fxSz1L77hPx8n15Fuqr+s1Af2DCX+JW Zy9joGVVwHBd8HyzPvDlgIDXqxJgpAfBzQVwgkGgICUwGLsIbvCD4wMF8LoXn7NJkIQINCH6LJRB DQ7OfiUcILUcKEDv0e93hupg824ItgFaZ3LfaqHtWEjDHk7Cg/HyIRKFiL0l/oGJ80Oh/viUeAgq NpFcHIyiF7MICC2+EIdXTKIhxPiqQPHgfGyUBBr3dcQuYtGMgXhjAbn4xAfSMYx8dGIecwhIsgiy hnsMpBUh00dCFrKMUATjFP34R0bqsY6JjGMkD3m8g1TyfZacpCcfCUo8XjKTZERkKEX5xUVi0mOD 7OQcG6lKTZ7SlbEsJSnl0so1cjKVsKTkLHWpxld+sgs8W2UMdynHWgZxRFq0IzmK+ZwJQvMXRrsI X9ZIxGxqc5vc7KY3vwlOblbRhemZJjnPKSR0DlOd7CSIM2XZzniW853wlKc97wkGeuJzn/w8YT// CVAQBnSgBO1lQQ+KUNMAMaEMbahDJh8KUWFoLqIUrahFL4pRjJgzoxztqEc/CtKQinSkJC2pSU+6 ggIAADs= ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C41082.72447B20--