At 04:35 AM 3/22/2004 -0800, you wrote: >I am a software developer (Java, C++, C, ...) with >some basic hobby experience breadboarding very simple >circuits. I want to get started with PICs, but I am >having a tough time figuring out which chip, >programmer, and compiler to use. > >What (I think) I want is: >* a PIC using the newest CPU core -- i.e., 18Fxxx >* in circuit programming -- I don't like the thought >of moving the chip around, breaking pins, etc. >* programmer software that runs on Windows XP >* an inexpensive C compiler >* All this for under $200 -- otherwise my wife will >make me pay in other ways :) > >Am I asking too much? > >Here are some options I am considering: >1. Wouter van Ooijen's Wisp628 programmer. Uses >bootloader, but I have to get the bootloader >programmed. Also, I think I would have to use JAL. >While this seems like a reasonable language, I would >prefer not to learn another language. Also, it >doesn't sound like the programmer software for the PC >supports Windows XP. No, you don't have to use a bootloader. It loads naked chips. I use it all the time. XWISP (the PC part) is written in Python, which should run under XP (although I have not tried it) You don't need to use JAL - that's what Wouter wrote WISP628 with, but you can use any programming language for the PIC. >2. Warp 13. This looks like a decent programmer, but >the disclaimer about in-circuit programming concerns >me. I really would like to do in-circuit programming. >3. MPLAB ICD 2. This sounds like it might work, but >is a bit expensive. Also, I'm not sure if it supports >18Fxxx chips or whether I need additional parts. > >I would greatly appreciate any help with my decision >so I can get started. > >-- DW > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: >[PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads Larry Bradley Orleans (Ottawa), Ontario, CANADA -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads