> Actually, this kind of makes me wonder why someone > would build the Wisp. I'm not saying it's a bad > programmer or anything, but if you want to build it > yourself, you most probably have a working programmer > already... You could use an unreliable (like 1 in 5 success rate) programmer that works only with the XT you are about to throw away or only when you start your 2 GHz XP with dos 3.11, and programs only 16F628's, and does no ICSP. Or you could buy a pre-programmed PIC from me, or have one of your friends program one for you. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu