Just a clarification: I hope I did not confuse anybody. I'm only giving away the PIC HEX files, ActiveX DLL, and documentation. Whoever wants to use the MISE has to supply their own PIC16F877, PIC16F877A, any necessary parts. They will also have to program the PIC with the HEX file. Once again, you don't need a Cybiko (almost any serial terminal app will do), but they are pretty cheap on E-bay. Best regards, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics