First let me commend you for even considering such an impressive project. Not a lot of 14 year olds would even think in those terms, much less be willing to try. Second, let me attempt to encourage you to attempt a less impressive scope for your project. For someone who hasn't done much embedded work, just getting a PIC to write to an LCD and read a keypad is a laudable goal. To that end, you can use almost any 40-pin PIC (see 18F4420, 18F452, 18F458, 16F877/877a) to do it quite easily, or if you want to have some real fun, a 28 pin can do it as well. I recently did a 4x3 + LCD on an 18 pin, but I'd not recommend that to anyone unless absolutely necessary. That said, I'd like to recommend that you tune down the scope a bit. Making a 16-bit scientific calculator with floating point math would be an admirable project in and of itself, as would a device capable of storing a limited number of names and phone numbers. The project you are describing is the sort of thing that a group of 4 senior level EE or CE students would try as a final design project, and spend a full year on. I don't know when your project is due, but it's March now and the end of school can't be that far off. If you are really interested, let me point you towards John Peatman's excellent book about the 18F452. It comes with a demo board (unassembled, but it does include the parts list for ordering the bits from Digikey). From what I remember of science fairs when I was 14, a "Hello World" on an LCD would be enough to place. Last point, consider working on this over several years. You could do a three or four year project, with the PDA as a final goal. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me off-list, and I'll be more than happy to help you out with your project as you need it. Mike H. >Hi there, >I'm 14 years old and for a science fair project I'm making a personal >organiser. I am fluent in C and asm, but I haven't worked much with >embedded >hardware before. >The organiser needs plenty of eeprom memory for data storage and enough rom >to contain programs to power the 16x2 lcd, keypad, a few small applications >and a scientific calculator. >Which brings me to my questions.. >Has anyone done something similar? >What pic should I use? >And, is there a pic available which is powerful enough and has enough i/o >to >control both my lcd, 5x4 keypad? > >Your help would be really appreciated as there isn't much support available >at my school. > >Thanks, >[arron] _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics