At 08:03 AM 3/17/2004, jisak wrote: >Hello Dwayne, >I tried to search in piclist archives your"stoopid buffer circuit", but >can't find it ! >Can you help me ? >Thank you Sure: From Mar 7 2003: You can try my stoopid (tm) buffer on the lines from the PS+: just haywire up a couple of complimentary followers (1 each for clk & data). I use 2n4401 / 2n4403: emitters connected together, bases connected together, PNP C to gnd, NPN C to +5V, 330R between E & B, 100n Mono cap between the 2 Cs for bypassing. Bases go to the PS+, emitters go to the PICs being programmed. You really only need the 330R resistor between E & B on the data line buffer but I put it on both lines in my setup. When the PS+ is reading data, it does so via the 330R resistor. When the PS+ is sending data, the buffers help clean up the signal and provide significant drive current if you are fighting other loads connected to the programming pins. Make the ground line from your board to the PS+ as heavy and low inductance as you can. Solder wick or the braided shield removed from RG-58 makes a good ground line (shrink some tubing over it). dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 20 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2004) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads