Thanks for the ideas everyone! The problem I face here is unit cost, adding more and more hardware to the in-car device will increase the overall cost of such a system dramatically. The clubs that are looking at purchasing or funding this system don't want to spend more than approx $1200 for 25 in car beacons, plus trackside and timing room hardware. This limits me to about $30 - $35 per unit for the in car beacons, which I can do using IR and RF. I think a system such as this, with the IR telling the RF when to transmit, will be sufficiently accurate and reliable, far more so than the current person-with-stopwatch system. I also checked and our insurance coverage for the event prohibit us from modifying the track surface in any way, especially mid corner... I definitely cannot install any permanent hardware or make structural changes to any facilities at the track. I'll investigate my options with this, I'll let the list know when a solution is reached :) -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard.Prosser@POWERWARE.COM Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2004 7:32 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Identifying cars I guess it's too much to hope that there's a drain or duct line under the circuit near the appropriate location? (For an RFID Loop) Why not have the unit on the cars do the timing, triggered by a beacon at the chosen spot, and then transmit the info to a PC. It could do the transmit thing several times to minimise (data) collision oppertunities. A 32kHz watch crystal should be more than adequate for timing. I see more difficulty in getting the beacon to trigger the device appropriately at an accurate location. Richar P -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads