Hi all, I am in the process of switching to SMT parts to save on endless drilling for a run of devices (100+) and to further reduce the size of the device. I am working with 12f629s, so its only a 8 pin SOIC, but I need a way to program the buggers before I solder them in the circuit. ICSP is not really an option because of the size and compactness of the device (even bare board). There is definitly no room for headers. Is there any kind of socket or clip or something I can use to connect to the bare SOICs long enough to program and verify them? The only thing I have found is for DIPs. Any experiences with this is apreciated :-) TIA, Ben Hencke __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads