Am Mittwoch, 17. M=E4rz 2004 02:04 schrieben Sie: > Howdy everyone, a question on the best solution to this particular > challenge. > > I'm a member of a car club, and we often have track days where we're timed > around a racetrack. Currently the timing consists of people with > stopwatches clicking the button when they see a car go past. > > Needless to say this is pretty inaccurate and not very reliable. > > Recently someone asked me if I could make a timing system, using a > transmitter on each car (as cheap as possible) and a "beacon" that would > detect the passing of the car, ans also identify the car. > > I've thought of 2 possible solutions and would appreciate feedback on what > which is the most suitable, and reliable, and whether anyone has any bett= er > ideas... > > The first solution would consist of an IR led on each car, flashing at a > discrete frequency, or even flashing a predetermined "ID" code. A beacon > would sit by the side of the track at the timing marker and count pulses, > identifying each car in turn. In this case the beacon sees the car pass. I > thought initially of using a discrete micro on each car, but it would be > overkill. A 555 based timer would be easier and cheaper... > > This has the advantage of being reasonably cheap to implement, and it's > easy to have a different frequency or code for all of the different cars > (about 50 different cars per event, but only 8 on the track at any one > time) > > Another option is to have an IR transmitter on the beacon, and an IR > receiver on the car. The car would also have a RF transmitter, so when the > car sees the beacon pass, it identifies itself via RF. This would be more > expensive, but I think more reliable. > > The range from the beacon to the car would be 5 - 20 metres (15-60 feet), > depending on what line they take through the corner. Speeds at this point > of the track are generally 70 - 120km/hr (45-75 MPH) > > The angle between the beacon's line of sight and the path of the car would > ideally be 90 degrees, but knowing some of the drivers this could vary > considerably! > > The software and timing will be handled by a PC attached to the beacon (or > communicating to the beacon through RF again) and displaying the times. > I've done that part, just need to handle the detection and identification > of the cars now... > > Any ideas anyone? > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu I can see a problem... what if two cars do pass the finish line nearly at t= he=20 same time just with a difference of less than a car length? I tell you, no = IR=20 method from either the right or the lift side, or even both will work. You need to detect a passing car from over or under the track! So the easiest and cheapest solution that comes into my mind now is to plac= e a=20 frame on the finish line. this frame holds a set of IR diodes in place over= =20 the track.=20 The cars will be equipped with IR recivers turned upwards and RF transmitte= rs=20 to send the ID signal. (the IR recivers must be placed at the front of all= =20 cars, so they're all at the same place relative to the car, to be fair.) When a car passes the frame and catches the IR signal it will send its ID=20 signal via RF. This signal can be catched up by a computer that does all th= e=20 needed calculations and processing. The RF ID circuit can be a cheap digita= l=20 circuit connected to a cheap RF transmitter module. A more advanced and professional method would be to put RFID's under the ca= rs=20 and the reciver units under the track. The powering reciver units hafe to b= e=20 powered very low, to limit their range to the finish line. Everytime a car= =20 passes the line its RFID get's powered by the reciver and sends its ID sign= al=20 back. This ID signal gets a time stamp when recived and then you have all=20 needed data for processing... MfG, Do.Pe. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu