Chris wrote... >On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 02:49:13PM +0000, Dave Dilatush wrote: > >> Also, put in that 10K base-to-ground resistor Spehro suggested so the >> circuit doesn't turn on due to transistor leakage. > >Ah, so the transistors leak if the base is open-circuit? Yep. Like all other PN junctions, the collector-base junction of a transistor has a certain leakage current (designated Icbo on the transistor data sheet). While it's usually pretty small at room temperature, it varies exponentially with temperature, approximately doubling with with every 10 degrees C increase. Without any external resistance bridging the base and emitter, this collector-base leakage just goes right on through the base into the emitter, causing an amplified current in the collector the same way a base signal current does; and at a high enough temperature, this can be enough to turn a transistor switch effectively ON. Hence the practice of putting a resistor between base and emitter; the exact resistance is not usually important, and values from 1X to 10X the base feed resistor are common. Dave D. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body