> I ordered a set of chips over a month ago. They still haven't been shipped. The same will probably happen to me. > Understood. However the similarities of all the parts in this family is what > binds them together. At the low end they are pretty much interchangable. > I always suggest to hobbyist to start with the most featured chip and then > work their way down. That gives the opportunity to see all the cool features. I need to learn how to use these features. I consider myself to be lucky that my 16F84A will actually turn LEDs on. In fact, I'm congratulating myself for it. > > Nigel Goodwin's Winpicprg tutorial suite is pretty good about showing the > capabilities of the more featured members of the 16F family. They are based > around the 16F628, the 16F876, and the 16F877. It's still not as up to date > as the latest chips, especially the ones with nanowatt capability. But it's > quite an advance over the 16F84. You can find it here: > > http://www.winpicprog.co.uk/pic_tutorial.htm I've bookmarked it. Thanks for pointing me to that because I can use the tutorials. Do you happen to know any with photos that show how to use a digital multimeter? I'll resume my big project tomorrow morning (Eastern time) -- building a ZIF socket-based 'PIC on a board' (as described by Benson) using that Datak protoboard. Since my socket is 40 pins maybe I should pay attention to wiring it to be compatible with the newer PICs you are pointing me to. -- Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA http://greenbeltcomputer.biz/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics