Hi, I'm learning how to use solderable perfboard. I want to create test boards for the PIC16F84A similar to the ones shown here: http://www.boondog.com/%5Ctutorials%5Cpic16F84%5Cpic16f84.html I'm using the Datak brand of perfboard with copper pads on the solder side. I'm using wires clipped and unwound from lengths of category 5e network cable. My question is, how do I solder a bus on the perfboard for the ground (earth) and another bus for +5v? Or is it better to use Datak "proto-board" -- I have 2 kinds which offer buses. The first is the No. 12-617 Experimenter's Protoboard and the second is the No. 12-611 Experimenter's Universal Protoboard with center buses. I also have a Velleman '1 Hole Island". I've held off using these because I'm not sure of the most effective way to use them. For example what would I do with the center buses? Thanks a lot! Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA http://greenbeltcomputer.biz/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics