Wouter, On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:09:28 +0100, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > retried: no succes. tried again with the document number for an existing PIC: still no succes. "dspic programming specification" : nothing. "16f7x programming specification" (definitely an existing document!): still no luck. I hope they are better at chip-building :( I've always found Microchip's web site search facilities to be about as useful as a chocolate teapot! Even following the tree-structures can have problems. Yesterday I clicked on the "18-27 pins" button and got only 28-pin chips! Ah well, all part of the fun of life... Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads