My wife, who was learning to solder some prototype pcbs, had a habit of laying the solder iron around, burning the table, books, tools, and almost any other thing near. Once I told her: watch out, you are going to burn the soldering iron handle one of these days!. A couple of days later, I did it. I burned a nice hole in the soldering iron handle, with another one hot tip. She reminds me it sometimes, as a case of "divine justice" RF -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu