On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Jinx wrote: > > Any competent installer would have a 'neutral detect' and 'lurch' > > switch to detect and prevent this exact situation. > > The dangers are appreciated. At 20 I was a tehnician, working at a plant factory and studing in the same time. All automations where powered up from a local acid battery station, having 110V or 220V and almost 220 Ah. It was a huge room where the elements (30kg) where connected in series. One of the biggest problem whas the accidental shortcircuit of one of the poles to ground. Why ? Because if one pole was grounded, another scurtcircuit to ground of the opposite polarity circuit could produce firing. Of course the accidental grounding was checked by a supervising meter. In one day I was searching for such a damn shortcircuit. It was very hot, about 30C inside and all automations closed in some big metal cases. With my right shoulder firmly on the metal case (grounded and +110V), I have touch accidentaly a relay socket with my arm (-110V). I can't explain the feeling. But is fresh in my mind after 20 years. Nothing is the same like a good, no ripple, "infinite output power" DC shaking ! best, Vasile -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body