My main computer is mac. Lovely 23 inch LCD display, dual processors, 370G of disk, etc. But it won't run assorted PC applications, including Eagle... So... I plucked an old 266MHz PII machine from the dumpster, put debian linux on it. With X. And it is now a "macintosh peripheral." I fire up X on the mac, run the "Eagle" menu item I created in the application menu, and it seems to work pretty well... this should work for assorted pic-programming tools as well, assuming they have linux versions that I can't compile for the mac ("parallel port? What's a parallel port? Serial ports, now - macs USED to have them...") I'm still working a bit on the file sharing, but it's looking pretty sweet, and I'm pretty happy about it. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics