>where in the uk can I buy them?. I've tried rs/farnell. Try Crownhill who seem to be the cheapest in the UK on the web http://www.crownhill.co.uk/ or try Becky Harding Microchip & Intersil Sales Co-ordinator Tel: 01296 332376 Fax: 01844 210929 Unique Memec - Lead By Design Do not have a web site for them. (thanks Dominic, I have the Picstart Plus upgrade on order). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads