Gustaf J. Barkstrom wrote: > I'm not throwing in the towel (yet) but I hate pointing out publicly how stupid I am. Hi Gustaf, As far as I know, no one was born an expert in anything. :) I hate to see someone leave the list -- I feel everyone has something to offer -- maybe they don't realize it. There is nothing wrong in asking beginner's questions. There's usually someone here to respond to them. The PICLIST gives you some stuff that 'googling for information' never will. Best regards, hang in there, and good luck in your course! Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body