> Well, the more I look at the links you folks provide, and the > sorts of projects you're doing, I realize that DIY boards are > just not the way to go. Gustav Folks here make some fine "DIY" boards. It's horses for courses. With the appropriate skills, DIY boards can be more than satisfactory for double sided short-run requirements. I do hundreds a year in this way, I'm sure others do even more. StUart -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.