Now that I own an ICD2, I have a Warp13A programmer for sale. I bought it last fall from: www.thebytefactory.com for $108. It has the Bluepole firmware on an 18F252 running at 20 MHz. Detailed information on the programmer s features at: http://www.newfoundelectronics.com/warp-13a.htm I am including the serial cable and AC adapter. I put a picture of everything I m selling at: http://www.bright.net/~agarb/warp13a.jpg I am asking $80 (US dollars) payable via paypal. I will ship worldwide via USPS from zip code 45304. Buyer pays actual shipping charges and any applicable taxes, fees, or duties. Buyer also pays for insurance, if desired. Depending on your location, the AC adapter may be worthless. If interested, please contact me off-list. Aaron G. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics