> It depends on the application. I'm working on one now that has > minimal power, certainly not enough to drive the whole enchilada, > ie, programmer and target. In that case I guess you are in trouble anyway, because a PIC will draw significantly more current while being programmed? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads