> > The ISP is TARGET powered (boo, hiss), and runs through > > the serial port rather than USB. I don't think it includes > > provisions for independent power supply, which stinks, > >What's wrong with a programmer being target-powered? Your target system >has to be powered anyway! It depends on the application. I'm working on one now that has minimal power, certainly not enough to drive the whole enchilada, ie, programmer and target. Given the choice I prefer USB powered, since it has its own power supply without a battery to die or a second cable. I certainly didn't mean to besmirch any of the fine PIC programmers. ;-) Mike H. _________________________________________________________________ Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads